Post by Thorax232 on Mar 8, 2013 21:38:31 GMT -6
There are those who believe that "illegal" citizens should not be able to sneak across the border, have a child and give that child U.S. citizenship. The child born in the United States should not gain citizenship due to his/her ties with their mother.
Murray Rothbard
"However, on rethinking immigration on the basis of the anarcho-capitalist model, it became clear to me that a totally privatized country would not have "open borders" at all. If every piece of land in a country were owned by some person, group, or corporation, this would mean that no immigrant could enter there unless invited to enter and allowed to rent, or purchase, property. A totally privatized country would be as "closed" as the particular inhabitants and property owners desire."
-Nations by Consent: Decomposing the Nation State(PDF)
Personally I think Murray Rothbard thinking here is incomplete. Essentially the border would be open, but what would make one a "citizen" is having enough money to live in a given area. Welfare is of course out of the question, but the ability for an immigrant to come in and work and live is completely open so long as someone is willing to hire and sell to them.
On the issue of a person abandoning a child I believe Rothbard would not see that as a crime because the child, who has the same rights as any human, has no right to expect to be taken care of and has no right to "leech" on his/her parents. I may be wrong about that, feel free to correct me with an up to date source.
The Ethics of Liberty - Children and Rights
Supreme Court
"All aliens are protected by the Due Process Clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments: "[The provisions of the Fourteenth Amendment] are universal in their application, to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to any differences of race, of color, or of nationality; and the equal protection of the laws is a pledge of the protection of equal laws."
Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356, 6 S. Ct. 1064, 30 L. Ed. 220 (1886).
"—all persons within the territory of the United States are entitled to the protection guaranteed by "the Fifth and Sixth Amendments"
Wong Wing v. United States, 163 U.S. 228, 16 S. Ct. 977, 41 L. Ed. 140 (1896).
"The Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment commands that no State shall `deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws,'which is essentially a direction that all persons similarly situated should be treated alike. "
Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202, 102 S. Ct. 2382, 72 L. Ed. 2d 786 (1982).
Murray Rothbard
"However, on rethinking immigration on the basis of the anarcho-capitalist model, it became clear to me that a totally privatized country would not have "open borders" at all. If every piece of land in a country were owned by some person, group, or corporation, this would mean that no immigrant could enter there unless invited to enter and allowed to rent, or purchase, property. A totally privatized country would be as "closed" as the particular inhabitants and property owners desire."
-Nations by Consent: Decomposing the Nation State(PDF)
Personally I think Murray Rothbard thinking here is incomplete. Essentially the border would be open, but what would make one a "citizen" is having enough money to live in a given area. Welfare is of course out of the question, but the ability for an immigrant to come in and work and live is completely open so long as someone is willing to hire and sell to them.
On the issue of a person abandoning a child I believe Rothbard would not see that as a crime because the child, who has the same rights as any human, has no right to expect to be taken care of and has no right to "leech" on his/her parents. I may be wrong about that, feel free to correct me with an up to date source.
The Ethics of Liberty - Children and Rights
Supreme Court
"All aliens are protected by the Due Process Clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments: "[The provisions of the Fourteenth Amendment] are universal in their application, to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to any differences of race, of color, or of nationality; and the equal protection of the laws is a pledge of the protection of equal laws."
Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356, 6 S. Ct. 1064, 30 L. Ed. 220 (1886).
"—all persons within the territory of the United States are entitled to the protection guaranteed by "the Fifth and Sixth Amendments"
Wong Wing v. United States, 163 U.S. 228, 16 S. Ct. 977, 41 L. Ed. 140 (1896).
"The Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment commands that no State shall `deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws,'which is essentially a direction that all persons similarly situated should be treated alike. "
Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202, 102 S. Ct. 2382, 72 L. Ed. 2d 786 (1982).